Featured Article

Investment clubs are cool again, and maybe community is, too

But investing with your friends is harder than r/wallstreetbets made it look

Comment

Young friends carrying large purple bar graph.
Image Credits: Klaus Vedfelt (opens in a new window) / Getty Images

The bets are no longer just on Wall Street — they’re in your group chats, book clubs and that awkward shuffle that happens when everyone’s trying to get out of the door at the same time at the end of class.

Community investment clubs are nothing new, but a renewed interest in decentralization and the glittering — albeit now hungover — allure of getting in at the ground level of a rocket-ship venture has created a new wave of efforts around group investing.

Individualism is out. Collectivism is in vogue.

The game (doesn’t) stop

The meme stock craze of 2021 highlighted a crucial trend — people want to invest with the conviction of a community behind them. It’s tough to assess exactly how many retail investors (aka regular people) started investing for the first time during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, but one Schwab study estimates that 15% of investors who were participating in the market in 2021 got started for the first time in 2020.

Outperforming the market requires differentiated thinking, often a solitary pursuit. But humans are social creatures, and money and investing can be scary.

A few trends converged to create this perfect moment for the retail investing boom – increased knowledge-sharing through the rise of new social media platforms, particularly TikTok, and a heightened focus from those of us who aren’t billionaires on overcoming income inequality by generating long-term wealth.

Regarding the second point, Nobel Prize winner Eugene Fama might call it hubris, as his research backs the idea that the best investment strategy for most individuals is just to buy a randomly selected, diversified basket of stocks (or an ETF). But it’s easier to generate wealth through investing than keeping one’s money in a savings account with paltry interest rates, and the idea of banding together with some of the smartest people you know to build wealth on your own terms is undeniably appealing compared to going it alone.

All that is to say, the rise of group investing is just as much about culture as it is about cash. Reddit’s r/wallstreetbets forum fostered such a strong community that it gave rise to a new language altogether – “aping” into an investment, holding an investment through a downturn with “diamond hands,” reaping “tendies” as profits and other such cringey terms.

Robinhood is the 800-pound-gorilla in the room here, but it’s not just the brash Wall Street bros hopping on the group investing bandwagon. Y Combinator-backed fintech startup Alinea, for example, was founded by two Gen Z women and creates “playlists,” or baskets of assets arranged around core values such as fighting climate change or LGBTQ+ empowerment that users of its app can share with their friends.

Social investment network EToro’s main claim to fame is its “CopyTrader” feature that allows people to, well, copy-paste the portfolios of well-known traders. The platform also just acquired a Robinhood competitor, Gatsby, for $50 million. Public.com is another example of a community-focused investing service.

While all of these platforms seek to harness the power of community to attract users, they still ultimately only enable individuals to make trades on their own. Investing in stocks with your friends’ input may be good enough, but if you want to invest in higher-priced assets, pooling money with friends can make all the difference. Unfortunately for those looking to band together to invest in alternative assets, there is no shortage of red tape — ahem, SEC — and legal hurdles in making group investing a reality.

That’s precisely what motivated entrepreneur Travis Smith to found group investing platform Tribevest — he realized how logistically difficult it was for him to invest in a real estate property alongside his brothers. The Columbus, Ohio-based startup now allows anyone to form an investor group with their friends by helping them create an LLC and providing in-app voting mechanisms to foster collective decision-making. Smith told TechCrunch in January that the app had over 570 investment groups actively transacting on it, most of which were investing in private markets.

Tribevest’s efforts underscore the recent push to expand the boundaries and definition of a community-oriented investment club while still operating within the constraints of the traditional financial system. But of course, crypto looms large in the background of this conversation.

DAO, dun, dun

Decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs) have breathed new life into the idea of collective governance. They’re nebulously defined these days, but the original idea behind the DAO structure was to give members crypto tokens that entitle them to voting rights on key decisions. Then, all their votes are recorded on the transparent, immutable ledger that is a blockchain.

That’s why Orange DAO, a group of over 1,000 Y Combinator alumni, decided to use the structure for its venture capital fund, according to the fund’s general partner, Ben Huh. The YC alumni, who earlier this month raised $80 million to invest in web3 startups, had originally set out to leverage their collective knowledge and experience as founders through their investments.

But a DAO with 1,000+ members is legally barred from investing directly, per U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission rules regulating investment clubs, so Orange DAO instead serves as a decision-making platform for the group while the money is formally invested through a separate fund managed by Huh and a few other GPs. The two-tiered structure requires trust, though, because it relies on those GPs to actually uphold the will of the DAO when executing deals.

“Currently, from a compliance and regulatory perspective in the United States, you can’t really have a venture firm with lots of general partners that change all the time. So what we really wanted to solve is that a lot of the investment club formats for DAOs out there limit you to 100 people who can invest directly without a manager,” Huh explained.

Whether DAOs become mainstream is still up for discussion, but the conversation around them has been groundbreaking. Even for startups that have nothing to do with crypto.

Three years ago, a group of Stanford students began working with Fenwick & West law firm to find a legal structure that met their needs: no accreditation requirement or hard limit on the number of people involved. The effort eventually turned into Stanford 2020, an investment club that raised $1.5 million for its debut fund. Fast-forward to today, the leader of that club, Steph Mui, is trying to replicate that playbook in the form of a venture-backed startup. PIN, which stands for “power in numbers,” recently raised a $5.6 million seed funding round led by Initialized Capital, with investments from GSR, NEA, Industry and Canaan.

Mui credited the growing mindshare around crypto-native DAOs as part of the reason that investment clubs are of more interest these days.

“We started before DAOs became really cool,” Mui said. “When we started, the kind of DAO-like structure that we set up around voting was more of a necessity from a regulatory standpoint … now it’s actually a huge bonus. People really love voting, and this is now a cool new opportunity we have.”

PIN wants to replicate the Stanford 2020 story for other community-based ventures. The company said that it provides interested clubs with back-office frameworks, legal and tax support, and has a platform where leaders can look for capital raise opportunities, meet other members and manage portfolios. It makes money through a SaaS fee, which Mui said she hopes stays below 2% of a club’s total assets under management.

“Anyone who has started an investing vehicle, whether it’s an investment club to a traditional fund, knows how difficult it is because of all the administrative obligations there are to make sure the fund is set up properly and is compliant,” Mui explained in an interview with TechCrunch. “Community investment clubs are even more difficult because of the number of investors (a club can commonly have hundreds of members), which introduces even more friction during the fundraising process and ongoing operations.”

While PIN’s launch has certainly benefited from the growing mindshare around crypto, another narrative could hinder its rise: the downturn.

Oh yeah, remember that?

Mui said that PIN is attracting lots of interest from traditional groups like other schools, early-stage tech companies and accelerators, but that it’s a “much bigger uphill battle in getting more nontraditional investors [involved], which is something we care about … [but] has taken a little bit of a backseat.”

Mui’s argument is a common one: It’s easier to break into venture if you speak the language, have the network and can, to put it bluntly, afford to make some mistakes. For those who are impacted by the downturn, either through a lost job or a painful drop in the value of public market assets, experimental bets may be “less of a priority.”

Bringing a diverse group of investors to the table isn’t the only challenge on the horizon. As founders across all stages enter a period of uncertainty, the appeal of having a group of investors with small individual stakes may not be as high as having a dedicated firm that will be available on speed dial. VSC Ventures’ Jay Kapoor talked to TechCrunch about this dynamic happening with party rounds last week: “The problem with those party rounds was when it came time for somebody to step up and really support the company, they weren’t there,” he said. The party may have confetti, but it doesn’t have appetizers that cater to your allergies.

Fragmentation often happens in pursuit of democratization and the unbundling of a service — but it also can create confusion that negatively impacts interest in the more accessible end product.

Investment clubs have gone from an idea to a nuanced reality. And as with any idealistic dream that gets materialized in the form of a tangible business model, it will likely face plenty of stumbling blocks before reaching widespread adoption.

More TechCrunch

Apple is set to board the runaway locomotive that is generative AI at next week’s World Wide Developer Conference. Reports thus far have pointed to a partnership with OpenAI that…

Apple’s generative AI offering might not work with the standard iPhone 15

LinkedIn has confirmed it will no longer allow advertisers to target users based on data gleaned from their participation in LinkedIn Groups. The move comes more than three months after…

LinkedIn to limit targeted ads in EU after complaint over sensitive data use

Founders: Need plans this weekend? What better way to spend your time than applying to this year’s Startup Battlefield 200 at TechCrunch Disrupt. With Monday’s deadline looming, this is a…

Startup Battlefield 200 applications due Monday

The company is in the process of building a gigawatt-scale factory in Kentucky to produce its nickel-hydrogen batteries.

Novel battery manufacturer EnerVenue is raising $515M, per filing

Meta is quietly rolling out a new “Communities” feature on Messenger, the company confirmed to TechCrunch. The feature is designed to help organizations, schools and other private groups communicate in…

Meta quietly rolls out Communities on Messenger

Featured Article

Siri and Google Assistant look to generative AI for a new lease on life

Voice assistants in general are having an existential moment, and generative AI is poised to be the logical successor.

7 hours ago
Siri and Google Assistant look to generative AI for a new lease on life

Education software provider PowerSchool is being taken private by investment firm Bain Capital in a $5.6 billion deal.

Bain to take K-12 education software provider PowerSchool private in $5.6B deal

Shopify has acquired Threads.com, the Sequoia-backed Slack alternative, Threads said on its website. The companies didn’t disclose the terms of the deal but said that the Threads.com team will join…

Shopify acquires Threads (no, not that one)

Featured Article

Bangladeshi police agents accused of selling citizens’ personal information on Telegram

Two senior police officials in Bangladesh are accused of collecting and selling citizens’ personal information to criminals on Telegram.

17 hours ago
Bangladeshi police agents accused of selling citizens’ personal information on Telegram

Carta, a once-high-flying Silicon Valley startup that loudly backed away from one of its businesses earlier this year, is working on a secondary sale that would value the company at…

Carta’s valuation to be cut by $6.5 billion in upcoming secondary sale

Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft has successfully delivered two astronauts to the International Space Station, a key milestone in the aerospace giant’s quest to certify the capsule for regular crewed missions.  Starliner…

Boeing’s Starliner overcomes leaks and engine trouble to dock with ‘the big city in the sky’

Rivian needs to sell its new revamped vehicles at a profit in order to sustain itself long enough to get to the cheaper mass market R2 SUV on the road.

Rivian’s path to survival is now remarkably clear

Featured Article

What to expect from WWDC 2024: iOS 18, macOS 15 and so much AI

Apple is hoping to make WWDC 2024 memorable as it finally spells out its generative AI plans.

23 hours ago
What to expect from WWDC 2024: iOS 18, macOS 15 and so much AI

HSBC and BlackRock estimate that the Indian edtech giant Byju’s, once valued at $22 billion, is now worth nothing.

BlackRock has slashed the value of stake in Byju’s, once worth $22 billion, to zero

As WWDC 2024 nears, all sorts of rumors and leaks have emerged about what iOS 18 and its AI-powered apps and features have in store.

What to expect from Apple’s AI-powered iOS 18 at WWDC 2024

Apple’s annual list of what it considers the best and most innovative software available on its platform is turning its attention to the little guy.

Apple’s Design Awards highlight indies and startups

Meta launched its Meta Verified program today along with other features, such as the ability to call large businesses and custom messages.

Meta rolls out Meta Verified for WhatsApp Business users in Brazil, India, Indonesia and Colombia

Last year, during the Q3 2023 earnings call, Mark Zuckerberg talked about leveraging AI to have business accounts respond to customers for purchase and support queries. Today, Meta announced AI-powered…

Meta adds AI-powered features to WhatsApp Business app

TikTok is testing streaks that are similar to Snapchat’s in order to boost engagement, including how long people stay on the app.

TikTok is testing Snapchat-like streaks

Welcome back to TechCrunch Mobility — your central hub for news and insights on the future of transportation. Sign up here for free — just click TechCrunch Mobility! Your usual…

Inside Fisker’s collapse and robotaxis come to more US cities

New York-based Revel has made a lot of pivots since initially launching in 2018 as a dockless e-moped sharing service. The BlackRock-backed startup briefly stepped into the e-bike subscription business.…

Revel to lay off 1,000 staff ride-hail drivers, saying they’d rather be contractors anyway

Google says apps offering AI features will have to prevent the generation of restricted content.

Google Play cracks down on AI apps after circulation of apps for making deepfake nudes

The British retailers association also takes aim at Amazon’s “Buy Box,” claiming that Amazon manipulated which retailers were selected for the coveted placement.

Amazon slammed with £1.1B data abuse lawsuit from UK retailers

Featured Article

Rivian overhauled the R1S and R1T to entice new buyers ahead of cheaper R2 launch

Rivian has changed 600 parts on its R1S SUV and R1T pickup truck in a bid to drive down manufacturing costs, while improving performance of its flagship vehicles.  The end goal, which will play out over the coming year, is an existential one. Rivian lost about $38,784 on every vehicle…

1 day ago
Rivian overhauled the R1S and R1T to entice new buyers ahead of cheaper R2 launch

Twitch has come up with a solution for the ongoing copyright issues that DJs encounter on the platform. The company announced Thursday a new program that enables DJs to stream…

Twitch DJs will now have to pay music labels to play songs in livestreams

Google said today it is partnering with RapidSOS, a platform for emergency first responders, to enable users to contact 911 through RCS (Rich Messaging Service).

Google partners with RapidSOS to enable 911 contact through RCS

Long before product-led growth became a buzzword, Atlassian offered free tiers for virtually all of its productivity and developer tools. Today, that mostly means free access for up to 10…

Atlassian now gives startups a year of free access

Featured Article

A social app for creatives, Cara grew from 40k to 650k users in a week because artists are fed up with Meta’s AI policies

Artists have finally had enough with Meta’s predatory AI policies, but Meta’s loss is Cara’s gain. An artist-run, anti-AI social platform, Cara has grown from 40,000 to 650,000 users within the last week, catapulting it to the top of the App Store charts. Instagram is a necessity for many artists,…

1 day ago
A social app for creatives, Cara grew from 40k to 650k users in a week because artists are fed up with Meta’s AI policies

Google has developed a new AI tool to help marine biologists better understand coral reef ecosystems and their health, which can aid in conversation efforts. The tool, SurfPerch, created with…

Google looks to AI to help save the coral reefs

Only a few years ago, one of the hottest topics in enterprise software was ‘robotic process automation’ (RPA). It doesn’t feel like those services, which tried to automate a lot…

Tektonic AI raises $10M to build GenAI agents for automating business operations